Saudi Arabia/USA: Islam and Muslims in America

American Bedu is sharing an email received about a program which will air tonight about Islam and Muslims in America in the wake of rising Islamophobia.  This sounds like an interesting program focusing on Muslims in America and what does it mean in regards to controversial issues surrounding Islam.

 

 

Hi Carol

Many Americans remain confused about Islam and Muslims in America in the wake of anti-mosque protests, anti-Shariah legislation and related controversies. Starting at 7:30 pm EST tonight, we¹re hosting a town-hall style program where a live audience and online viewers will have an opportunity to ask hard questions to leading authorities on Muslim Americans, religious liberty, and interfaith relations.

I believe you and the readers of American Bedu will be interested in sharing, watching, and discussing:

http://myfellowamerican.us/newseum

I would love it if you could share the webcast and post or tweet about it. If you do, please let me know. And please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you so much.

 

Daniel Tutt

Project Director,

My Fellow American

Twitter: @usmuslimstories

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MyFellowAmericanProject

Web: http://myfellowamerican.us

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14 Responses

  1. Quote: viewers will have an opportunity to ask hard questions to leading authorities on Muslim Americans, religious liberty, and interfaith relations.

    I sincerely doubt that ‘hard’ questions will be asked. They will probably be selected to fit the interests of the producers.

    It is my opinion that Muslims cannot, in numbers, live in peace with non-Muslims. Our values are different and Islamic theology makes co-existence impossible (we are, after all, just treacherous vile animals according to the Quran). I think this position is widely substantiated by how Muslims conduct themselves where they dominate – and I refuse to believe that American Muslims are in different from their brethren in Islamic societies. If Muslims could, they would impose sharia and their twisted values on non-Muslims.

    Note also, having read the hadith, I find it hard to believe that people that love, respect and consider Mohammad a ‘great moral example’ have any goodwill toward us. This problem is compounded by the total inability for Muslims to be honest about simple, clear facts in their own scriptures – and because they will not self-reflect on this problem, they cannot change.

    It pains me to say this, but that is the way it is. Respect for others – including Muslims – and devotion to the ideals of freedom and equality require that I be honest about this, or at least, say it as I believe it is. I might be wrong, but probably not.

  2. PS: I did leave a comment expressing by views on the linked website “myfellowamerican” and it was never published. This was done 3 months (?) ago when Carol first mentioned the site. If I remember correctly I asked about the hate and discrimination that Muslims practice where they dominate. Of course, that subject is taboo.

    Worse yet, the West’s leaders, the media, academia and government have betrayed the people, blaming all problems on non-Muslims, islamophobia, racism, culture, colonialism, etc – but almost never on a people whose actions and ideology are considered loathsome by so many.

    So we get unending articles, speeches and websites telling us we have to be more tolerant, that we need to do more to integrate Muslims, that we must not offend their delicate ears, and so on. It seems that our so-called intelligensia and Muslims are in full agreement that it is all our fault and that Muslims are just poor misunderstood victims of hate and discrimination. Poor things.

    Don’t waste your time asking hard questions because Muslims can’t even answer the easy ones.

  3. I don’t see any live audience.

  4. I’m also trying to figure out the link. ):

  5. this link http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=37abcdd8a3e46cf41d3777e2e&id=0fe956a29cgets one closer to the webcast

    On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Carol Fleming wrote:

    > I’m also trying to figure out the link. ): > >

  6. Well, I am very disappointed. I did everything I understood to do but did not get connected to the event. bah humbug.

    On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Carol Fleming wrote:

    > this link > http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=37abcdd8a3e46cf41d3777e2e&id=0fe956a29cgets one closer to the webcast > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Carol Fleming wrote: > >> I’m also trying to figure out the link. ): >> >>

  7. I agree in part with Jay, I have lived in the Middle East since 2005. I can relate to his opinion, however I feel the Fundalmentalists and media do not help the status of the ” average” Muslim. In the Quran, the people of the ”Book” are accepted this means Jews and Christians as the Quran is like the ”next” edition of God’s works and instructions. I feel as you do that there may be no resolution to living with each other. Here there is always the ”whining” about Western interference in their politics but when they want something where do they go first? And yet they will hold up our societal structures as an ideal. ??? But it is the uneducated and underexposed who create the biggest threat through their ignorance of ”our” culture and lifestyle. They believe we live like in the movies. They ” Muslims’, who immigrate then start to try to change things the way they want them, irritate me.They immigrate but don’t really integrate. We like our ”capitalist”, social program supporting, free society. It’s not perfect but it’s better than here. The concept of keeping your religion in your home and in the mosque is foreign to them when religion and politics are often linked 😦

  8. I like the phrase “immigrate but don’t really integrate.” It’s very apt.

  9. I have decided to accept Mr. Tutt’s offer so I sent him this email with my questions. Text below….

    To Mr. Daniel Tutt (outreach@upf.tv; Daniel@upf.tv; daniel@911unitywalk.org)

    As an avid reader of the excellent and widely read American Bedu blog, I took notice of your offer to address the ‘hard questions’ that are often ignored for being too problematic or controversial. Even so, these issues are extremely important and express the views and misgivings that many people around the world have toward Islam and Muslims. From your extensive writings and many contacts, I believe you are well situated to answer these important questions. If you cannot, I am sure your many Muslim readers are capable of expressing their opinions, whatever they may be, as to these things many non-Muslims find troubling. Perhaps a special page of Q&A on your excellent “My Fellow American” website would be appropriate. I must warn you, however, that Muslims are often very reluctant when it comes to difficult issues and you may encounter resistance. I hope that you will be honest and brave enough to post these questions and seek answers from knowledgeable Muslims.

    If understanding and harmony are to prevail other turmoil and hate we must have honest dialogue about those things that cause concerns.

    I am sending an email copy of this to Carol (admin@americanbedu.com) and posting it to the blog entry with your invitation, at this link:

    http://americanbedu.com/2012/01/18/saudi-arabiausa-islam-and-muslims-in-america/

    Thank you,
    Jay Kacztowski

    I would like answers to these five questions or issues:

    1. Given the legal and social discrimination practiced by Muslims in Islamic societies against non-Muslims and even other Muslims, and the rampant disrespect for human rights in Islamic societies, why should people in the West believe that Muslims are tolerant or even want to live in peace? Why should we believe that Muslims in the West are any different from their brethren in Islamic societies?
    2. Why do Muslims always quote the “no compulsion verse” from the Quran yet do nothing to change the fact that all Islamic schools of Jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shiite, agree that the penalty for apostasy is death? It seems that Muslims are either insincere or deceitful since they say one thing to infidels and do another. None of the apostasy or blasphemy laws that are so common in Muslim countries have been repealed. Why don’t Muslims in the West preach to and correct their brethren instead of wasting time with us over a matter that suggests hypocrisy?
    3. Why can’t Muslims be honest about the hundreds of verses in the Quran that denigrate non-Muslims? Do they think that these verses have no effect on Muslims’ behavior and attitude towards non-Muslims? Muslims will endlessly quote peaceful verses but never mention the far more numerous verses that that mandate violence, subjugation, hate, and discrimination (q 2:216, 8:55, 9:29, 9:111, 49:29, 61:9, etc…). Will Muslims condemn these sayings?
    4. Why can’t Muslims be honest about the wars and raids conducted by Mohammad against his neighbors, including surprise attacks with killing, plunder, enslavement, and rape of captive women? There are hundreds of accounts about these in all reliable hadith collections, yet Muslims pretend these are not there or dismiss them with an inadequate “self-defense” excuse (note that it is hard to understand how one conducts 25+ raids in self-defense or when only 2 of about a dozen battles were conducted near Mohammed’s base, Medina, or when we are told that Mohammad would approach a village at daylight and attack if he didn’t hear the Muslim call to prayer). How is a non-Muslim supposed to feel when he/she reads these stories, sees how Muslims distort the facts, and then learns that the Quran says that Mohammad is a great example for Muslims to follow? (with no stated reservations or limitations).
    5. Why do Muslims always blame others for any and all problems? Rather than address these issues, Muslims prefer to yell “islamophobia, racism, hate, colonialism, etc” instead of changing their attitudes, or at least reflecting on their own behavior. The fact is that Muslims seem to think that all that is needed is for non-Muslims never to criticize Muslims or Islam and all will be well, when in fact Non-Muslims believe what is needed is a change of heart and reformation by Muslims. The usual excuses of “out of context”, “that was then”, “that is cultural”, “bad translation”, “its only a few” or “you don’t understand” by Muslims are meaningless when decency demands that a people accept responsibility for their beliefs and actions, and renounce / denounce malicious dogma, including that found in so-called holy scriptures, and then treat others as they demand to be treated (ie, the golden rule). To Non-Muslims, it seems that with tolerance, accommodation and respect are given to Muslims without any reciprocity.

    These are five simple “relationship questions” which I believe reflect the core problems that Non-Muslims have with Islam and Muslims and make harmony difficult if not impossible unless resolved.

  10. Well said, Jay. I look forward to seeing what response you receive.

  11. me too…good questions, Jay!

  12. You know, Carol, you are special in so many ways.

    I have been on hundreds on islamic-themed sites, as yours is, in a way because of SA – and about 99% would never permit the often harsh criticism of Islam that you do (whether justified or not). I have seen many people here call for censorship (or “moderation”) but you never have lifted a finger to silence any voice.

    Given my pessimistic, cynical nature I am always surprised to find people like you – a woman with serious medical problems and who has faced the tragedy of love and loss, but who dedicates herself to a mission that isn’t always appreciated – and all without self pity and rancor.Because of this, there are untold people that visit your blog that hold you dear to their hearts. I certainly do.

    You know, on a different vein, I read the stories here about love, marriage and the often difficult relationships that occur between men and women with almost academic interest. People – all people – all races, Muslims and non-Muslims men and women – make the same mistakes over and over again and there is nothing we can do or say that will change this. A few of us – how many I don’t know – but certainly you and me – have been blessed with true love, mature love.
    Anyway, I will stop before I get emotional. If you are ever in Phoenix….

    As to a response, I am not holding my breath

  13. Jay,

    You have humbled me. With all sincerity, thank YOU.

    I do believe in people being heard. Whether we agree or not, I hope we learn.

    The old saying is very true…. “I’d rather have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.”

    Please also feel free to suggest any topics you think I’ve not covered in enough depth or covered at all!

    Best Regards, Carol

  14. Salaam Jay,

    Thank you for sharing your questions about Islam.

    Although this is a bit late, I wanted to provide you with answers (they are lengthy, and so I am adding them to my own site which is still in the making, so to speak). You can read my response to your first question here: https://denaalatassi.squarespace.com/blog/2013/2/22/qa-apostacy-blasphemy-laws-in-islam

    And, God-willingly, I’ll complete responses to the rest of your comments/questions as time allows. I hope that God winds up destining you to come back to this board somehow to know that your inquiries are not without response.

    Thanks, and thanks to Carol for her permission to do this,

    – Dena

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